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Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.25 13:42:00 -
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I like reading his blogs. That aside, in any other game people doing this type of behaviour would have been banned long ago. I would like to see CCP stand up and say 'there is a line of decency even in a harsh mmo, cross it and be banned'. |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:19:00 -
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After reading this threadnaught, The bunnies think you are all nuts.... |
Bunnie Hop
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:39:00 -
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This toxic thread sure gives me pause when considering my future in this game. This community as some nice players, but also the greatest concentration of venomous hateful people I have ever seen-all condoned (if not actively supported) by CCP. For now I forbid my daughter (an eve player-but only with supervision) from viewing these forums any further. |
Bunnie Hop
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:01:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Or we could discuss this as reasonable adults and treat this as opportunity for open dialog. You don't see me pasting talking points repeatedly. You see me wishing to discuss it. I would even call it a debate, let's just have an honest dialogue. I can reflect and concede some points, as can you. That's how we move forward. Not with crazy rhetoric.
I won't engage in name calling, but I think the fact that you see nothing wrong with your actions to be a major character flaw. You took an ingame scam out of game and made it a very personal abuse of someone. Until you do some introspection and see just how offensive this is there is no point of moving forward. This game is a cruel environment but that does not give license to do humiliate and abuse someone. Yes, he could have walked away, that is puzzling as well, but he didn't and that fact alone does not further give you right to abuse him. I think you should be banned, not permanently, and CCP should make clear that they do not support this behaviour. Is that a reasonable enough discussion for you? |
Bunnie Hop
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:07:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Any quotable snippet I throw out here will get trolled to death. All of these questions can be asked in a livestreamed event. Keep asking questions though, some of these are good.
Livestream event, please. Now you are just capitalizing on your terrible behaviour. You actually enjoy this attention. You could not pay me to attend a livestream event featuring you. |
Bunnie Hop
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:14:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:I certainly do hope many of my critics here take the time to read www.minerbumping.com because you will find thousands of examples of utter filth spewed by highsec miners. I assure you, we are the good guys. Take a look.
People who are good guys, don't need to assure others of that fact. You are not the good guys, but egocentric abusive individuals who are so self absorbed as to belief your own vitreol. |
Bunnie Hop
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:17:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Any quotable snippet I throw out here will get trolled to death. All of these questions can be asked in a livestreamed event. Keep asking questions though, some of these are good. Livestream event, please. Now you are just capitalizing on your terrible behaviour. You actually enjoy this attention. You could not pay me to attend a livestream event featuring you. A livestreamed event cannot be edited before viewing and would be unscripted. Please remove the tinfoil. *edit* unless my critics cannot carry on their arguments without talking points/teleprompter type of stuff.
So much for your adult conversation I see, 'remove the tin foil'. |
Bunnie Hop
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:41:00 -
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Bjurn Akely wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:This toxic thread sure gives me pause when considering my future in this game. This community as some nice players, but also the greatest concentration of venomous hateful people I have ever seen-all condoned (if not actively supported) by CCP. For now I forbid my daughter (an eve player-but only with supervision) from viewing these forums any further. To be fair the people you mention are easily avoided inside the game. Most of the people you speak of are also forum alts. People who can not, or will not stand up for their actions, comments and behavior. Some might be forum alts out of necessity, sure. But I think you understand what I'm talking about. Also, if your daughter is old enough to play the game this is the time to educate her on what being a good human being is about.
I have never understood this forum alt thing. Aside for obviously troll types, what difference does it make which character a person posts with, the opinion is still the same. Just someone decided they wanted more war targets based on forum posts so started this whole forum alt nonsense. As for what a good person is, it sure is not easy to find on Eve forums. I realize ingame it is easy to avoid people, I just have a hard time giving money to a company that condones abusive behaviour when taken to extremes. This HTFU stuff might appeal to some, but not me and not on the forum. |
Bunnie Hop
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:13:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Well one thing is for sure, due to the vile heresies against HTFU and rampant pansification on display here, I am taking the unprecedented step of adding a +5 to our Kill-It-Forward queue. The inquisitors of HTFU will slaughter no less than five innocent carebears in hisec in the coming days, and let them know it is because of heretics like Ripard and Luminous Spirit that they are suffering their losses. Your heresies, our hands, their blood, your conscience, Insha'Allah. F
Dream on. |
Bunnie Hop
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:05:00 -
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So no CCP involvement or opinion of this type of behaviour originating in or taking place in their game? Well I might have some incentive for you, I forwarded all these links and audio files to the ESRB for review of your Teen rating. Perhaps a Mature rating will be more suitable, though will no doubt limit your player base potential. CCP, get control of this. |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:09:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:So no CCP involvement or opinion of this type of behaviour originating in or taking place in their game? As has been said more than once in this thread, they'll take their time and formulate what they believe to be a measured response. It's how they roll.
They have had ample time. |
Bunnie Hop
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:12:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:So no CCP involvement or opinion of this type of behaviour originating in or taking place in their game? Well I might have some incentive for you, I forwarded all these links and audio files to the ESRB for review of your Teen rating. Perhaps a Mature rating will be more suitable, though will no doubt limit your player base potential. CCP, get control of this. Well in truth I think many people are amused that Eve is somehow rated "Teen" by the ESRB and "12" by the PEGI. When you see what is said in chat channels, Public, Alliance and Corp, I would never let my kids with 10 feet of Eve.
I agree, I do let my oldest daughter play but only when she is with me or my husband and she is not allowed to talk to anyone ingame not on her approved contacts list. I didn't know it was rated 12 by PEGI, I will see if that can be changed as well. |
Bunnie Hop
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:18:00 -
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Tor Norman wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:So no CCP involvement or opinion of this type of behaviour originating in or taking place in their game? Well I might have some incentive for you, I forwarded all these links and audio files to the ESRB for review of your Teen rating. Perhaps a Mature rating will be more suitable, though will no doubt limit your player base potential. CCP, get control of this. Not sure if that'll help. The guy that fell for the scam was an adult.
Yes he was, but the fact it goes on should raise the rating so that parents don't blindly subject their children to this type of behaviour. |
Bunnie Hop
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:24:00 -
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Wesley Otsdarva wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Wesley Otsdarva wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:So no CCP involvement or opinion of this type of behaviour originating in or taking place in their game? Well I might have some incentive for you, I forwarded all these links and audio files to the ESRB for review of your Teen rating. Perhaps a Mature rating will be more suitable, though will no doubt limit your player base potential. CCP, get control of this. Well in truth I think many people are amused that Eve is somehow rated "Teen" by the ESRB and "12" by the PEGI. When you see what is said in chat channels, Public, Alliance and Corp, I would never let my kids with 10 feet of Eve. Unfortunately Online Interaction is not rated by the ESRB. The only criteria they look for is what can be derived from the gameplay. Not from players. And this game lacks the nudity, sexual references, and profanity that it would require to get above a T rating. It is, Eve Online is rated T by the ESRB. Just go to their website and search for Eve Online I know it's rated by ESRB. But Online interaction, meaning what can happen between two people. Is not rated by the ESRB. They only look for aspects that can be derived from gameplay interacting with NPCs. If they would sit in jita local and rate this game. Or in some alliance chats. They would indeed rate it differently if it were their policy.
Then it is time to affect the way in which they give ratings. |
Bunnie Hop
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:32:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Then it is time to affect the way in which they give ratings. The only solution that could arise from this is to rate every online game as R18, since anything could happen in an online interaction between 2 people. Alternatively you could just do what parents should do & control what your child has access to.
I do control what they have access to, but still believe this is a correct action to take. The ratings on this game need to take into account what actually happens in the game. I have provided them (I would be shocked if others haven't as well) evidence and at the very least they will be informed and that's the first step. I think CCP could end this now by doing what is ethically and morally right, but that is their decision to make. |
Bunnie Hop
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:43:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Then it is time to affect the way in which they give ratings. The only solution that could arise from this is to rate every online game as R18, since anything could happen in an online interaction between 2 people. Alternatively you could just do what parents should do & control what your child has access to. I do control what they have access to, but still believe this is a correct action to take. The ratings on this game need to take into account what actually happens in the game. I have provided them (I would be shocked if others haven't as well) evidence and at the very least they will be informed and that's the first step. I think CCP could end this now by doing what is ethically and morally right, but that is their decision to make. So let me get this right. You want CCP to ban someone who has broken no EULA or TOS rules. Someone who asked a willing contestant to read out the code, a few wikipedia pages and to sing two songs, one of which from a disney children show. Is this what you are asking them to do?
baltec you are over simplifying what happened and the root cause. This was a scam that turned into something that no one deserves to be subjected to. All the other sementics (he could walk away, etc.) is academic to me, erotica was wrong, his action repugnant by any standards (even the lose eve moral norm) and it should not be tolerated. |
Bunnie Hop
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:33:00 -
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Some of you should realize how close you are to a forum ban and stop name calling (retards, moralfags, etc.) Aside from being childish it diminishes the impact of your opinion. |
Bunnie Hop
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:39:00 -
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LordOfDespair wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Some of you should realize how close you are to a forum ban and stop name calling (retards, moralfags, etc.) Aside from being childish it diminishes the impact of your opinion. Don't impersonate forum moderators.
I wasn't in any way, I was just giving them a heads up to prevent a mod getting involved. Wow you people want to argue everything to death. |
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